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$ Thinking/Consolidation, Sleep

July 18th, 2015 at 06:39 pm

So I'm thinking about combining all my investment accounts. I think I want to put them all in Vanguard, but I'm not sure if it is possible.

I currently have two stock/brokerage accounts at Scottrade.

A stock/brokerage account and target fund at Trowe.

A defunct 403(b) account from teaching at some place called Empower Retirement? (used to be at Valic AIG, but my former employer switched companies this year.)

A traditional ROTH at Vanguard.

Almost forgot - another stock account at Cap One - formerly Sharebuilder.

And then of course the accounts I have with my new employer. (These I plan to leave alone.)

The 403b and the TROWE target fund I think can be moved over with no problem. It's the stock accounts I'm not so sure about.

I want to consolidate these accounts as much as possible for two reasons - 1- ease of tracking/accounting, and 2 - less maintenance fees eating into profits.

I know I need to just call Vanguard and ask if it's possible to move stock only accounts over to them, but I seem to think about these kinds of things on the weekend or after business phone hours.

I don't want to sell my stock holdings, just move them to another ... holder? I'm not even sure if that is possible??

Anyway, I have this on a reminder note for the August business days I'll have off to call and get the ball rolling on as much as I can.

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Oh get this! I just got a message from J of airbnb fame ... the "friend" found an apartment and doesn't need her room after all. Too bad, so sad. :roll eyes:

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I've been on a bit of a junkfood binge the past few days. All that stuff I bought Thursday ... I had thought about returning some of it before I actually ate it ... Oh well. It was a good reminder that I actually like how I feel *without* eating all that junk *much* better than the opposite.

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I cashed out Bing for a $5 AGC yesterday. Today I am within less than 600 SBs of my second $25 Paypal for July. (Ngage is back ... which can be "watched" while doing stuff in another window at the same time ...)

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I've set my fitbit sleep thing on sensitive this last week. It sure has shown me why I'm so tired! For example, last night out of 6 hrs 30 minutes "asleep" 85 minutes of that time was "restless" or moving enough to shake the fitbit. Other nights had less hours of "sleep" with roughly the same restless minutes. I wish I could figure out how to change this. Consistent exercise doesn't seem to be the answer. Eating better doesn't seem to be the answer. (the little hours sleep / restlessness are similar for before Thursday's junk food binge - so really made no difference.)

Getting TO sleep isn't the issue - it's once I'm asleep that there are multiple periods of restlessness, and then waking up at WAY too early hours (WAY before my alarm is set, and not being able to go back to sleep very well.)

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This coming week my sleep issues are probably not going to be helped much ... Monday and Wednesday evenings I'm signed up to help out at the local VBS. Tuesday night I'm doing a parking garage shift from 8 p.m. - ?? And of course Sunday and Thursday nights are NE's nights. Somehow I'm going to fit in regular exercise into that schedule.

15 Responses to “$ Thinking/Consolidation, Sleep”

  1. snafu Says:
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    If your really want to go to DM as planned, why not give J the opportunity to serve your needs?

    If consolidating accounts with different providers [403b, Cap One, Scottrade, Trowe] the danger is triggering fees, Capital gains and Income Tax scooping up their share. I'd review other people's experiences discussed on Boggleheads.com, discuss your desired outcome and expect it to take longer than seems reasonable. It helps if you can list what percentage you want in what specific holding like 403b in their Target Fund 2035 for example.

    I'd leave the process to experienced Vanguard staff who likely do millions of switches.

    just my unedited opinion

  2. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    I'm not wanting to sell any stocks/funds - just kind of transfer them from one institution to another.

    My income is low enough that I don't think I need to worry about capital gains taxes. But yes, I will be waiting to see what the Vanguard person has to say to see how possible this even is to do.

  3. scottish girl Says:
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    Are you winding down enough before bed? I realise this seems like something you would only make sure a child was doing, but I know my sleep suffers if I'm thinking about things too close to bed time. I'm starting to add a hot drink before bed into my routine (it's relaxing and adds some calories )

  4. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    SG - My bedtime routine may be something I need to fix/change. I generally am on the computer/iPhone til the last second. I know I've read articles where they say to turn that stuff off at least an hour ahead ... I guess I need to decide if good sleep is more important to me than getting in the last few posssible minutes of screen time ... Smile

  5. Petunia 100 Says:
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    Yes, you can easily consolidate all of your accounts at Vanguard. You will need to open a brokerage account for the stocks and specify that you want to transfer your holdings "in kind". Transferring in kind is not a sale, so no tax implications.

  6. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Awesome Petunia!

    That was what I wasn't sure about with Vanguard - I know they have index funds, etc., but didn't know if they did individual stocks (i.e. brokerage.) I can hardly wait til August 17! (the first business day I'll have off where I won't be traveling, and so will have time to get this going. Smile )

  7. Maranatha Says:
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    Have you ever seen a NUUCA certified chiropractor? They are able to work on your C1 or Atlas vertebrae which is where all your nerves are connected to your spine. They have cure sleep apnea even in some cases. If you are interested in this you might check into John Bergman on You tube, tons of information and videos. I've gone from 11 prescription to 1 and working on eliminating that one. Hope you sleep better!

  8. Carol Says:
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    Double check this and I but I think Vanguard has phone hours till p.m.eastern

  9. Carol Says:
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    Double check this and I don't know if it will help but I think Vanguard has phone hours till 7 p.m.eastern

  10. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Maranatha - I've never been to a chiropractor - interesting idea though

    Carol - Ah! I might be able to make that work - as long as I managed to call before six my time - days I don't go to the gym might work

  11. Carol Says:
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    Duh, I just looked it up and it's even later-- 9 and 10 p.m. depending on type of investment. Good luck!

  12. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Even better Smile

  13. Jenn Says:
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    My employer uses Empower Retirement (used to be JP Morgan) too. You could do much better with Vanguard.

  14. Tabs Says:
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    That's what I did with my finances as well. Basically, I consolidated all of my accounts under Fidelity, even my checking account and credit cards. It has greatly simplified my financial life.

    Vanguard is a great choice, but as far as I know, they don't offer checking accounts and credit cards, and Vanguard uses its own index funds that is not compatible with others unless other companies are buying Vanguard funds to begin with.

    It's because of that, that's how I ended up with Fidelity, but I understand Schwab offers similar services as well. There may be others, but that's all I know.

  15. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    Jenn - When I called Vanguard and told the person that one of my accounts was with ER, he laughed and told me that he'd just helped someone before me move from there. Smile
    Tabs - I'm not worried about consolidating checking accounts or credit cards right now. Smile I just want to get my investments pretty much all in one place (my current employer's stuff not included.)

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